Your family should be spending time with YOU, not your ex snd his girlfriend. 9. His ex told me that is my family. Sadly life is not a movie and families are not perfect and considerate towards out feelings. I hurt daily alone with no sisters mom dad or family period but Im a mom now no longer a little girl. I guess it depends how much you love her and how complicated you want your life to potentially be. I am in a very similar situation. My sister dumped her husband of 18 years for another person. Your family is extremely insensitive. Her husband is still talking to my ex against my wishes. Is that normal with your boyfriend and his ex wife still go hang out with his ex wife. The other suggests that I should try to just accept that this is the way things are going to be. Anyway, looking now, its been 9 years in October that we split and 6 years divorced. Divorce means its over! They didnt believe me even though I never told one lie whereas he just behaved like the complete victim and told lie after lie. I divorce mi kids mother, and all ties with her, and her family are gone, I have honestly run out of patience and I feel that I should move on with my life. I think they are insensitive and dont deserve you. :/, Did you even read the column? They missed more than twenty years of our lives. Have you also noticed there is no middle ground for those who disagree with your comments? Make sure you get along enough to try to do whats best for your kids" My brother passed away and I resumed the relationship with my parents. Because he can hang out with you and be there in person, but you can somehow feel that he is not there mentally. No, its not unreasonable to want your family as your family. Start going and act like you are perfectly fine with him being there. Im so sorry. My 27 yo lives with me because he has autism. Not my ex. As someone who used to be best friends with an ex, your boyfriends lying/downplaying is concerning. I have to push back a little. (read about it) I went to her house a few years ago to find my grandson wearing a dress. "If your partner has a passion, get involved. For example, maybe you're in a relationship with someone new, and you'd like to stay in touch with your ex's family, but you know that spending time with them will make your new partner uncomfortable. It never gets easier. they need to understand this, when someone divorces the family is divorced also. Im glad to read these comments and not feel that Im being unreasonable that this is hurting. Every person says,he didnt do it to me so why shouldnt I? To me, its the worst form of betrayal. He then had a girlfriend whom was introduced to my family. I'm not saying that's what you're doing. She had none of these issues. I need that! I am a very private person. I also feel there is more to the story than the original comment. I do feel we have an innate need to be backed up by our biological family but I agree that the needs of the children are paramount. I left him and my mom says that I should have known what he was from all the years he did me wrong!!! I feel sorry for your ex. But its controlling to expect the family to break their close bond because you have. I was better off when we werent speaking. Sure, she might have done some things that her family did not like. Its disrespectful and callous particularly At Thanksgiving. If your family is harassing your wife to the point of depression that is cruel to both of you and shows a complete lack of respect for both your feelings. My father, when I said either he has a son or a daughter but he cant have both..his response was Ill see what I can do. He took off walking. name for it? Dani I really feel for you. I cut ties with her family. Because I didnt speak and didnt know he was doing this, my friends and family are no more. Ive heard many stories from the middle of the situation, the little lies the subtle manipulations, the jealousy the list goes on and rarely just from one side! She refused to meet with me with a court ordered psychologist, only going to 6 sessions by herself, and cancelling when it came time to meet together. Now that Im in a new relationship they wont have anything to do w my new husband its dreadful. Like maybe dont be in the same events. Oh well. She is 8 now. These two guys were never super close. You can have a totally healthy and normal friendship with members of an ex's family, as long as you're considerate of your ex's feelings. Arent the two families supposedly joined together through marriage? Long story short, just because a girl has contact with the friends and family of an ex doesn't mean she will go back to him or even consider it. Wouldnt he rather be with her? And that not your family leaving you. There are two types of instances that would be aggravating factors. My ex just started dating someone so Im about to enter this new stage as they welcome her as well. What a niave view of a relationship. He would not leave, so I needed to go. Are you going to make your children choose sides are you going to really be the one who already decided to tear your family apart but to make each of them choose a side. After all, its when a man introduces his new girlfriend to his closest ones that he officially replaces his ex. They say theyd like to get to know me better but dont do anything to try. Anyway, if you feel that hes doing this to you, its a very clear sign that hes not completely over his ex. I know hes doing it because he knows thats the one thing i asked him not to. My ex has even friended a couple of guys I dated after we divorced and hangs out with them. I literally googled my family still hangs out with my ex. I Completely understand this situation. Do you have any idea how many divorces go wrong, where one parent or both are manipulating, jealous etc. If your entire family, including your parents like the guy, maybe he wasnt so bad? So again, just give it some time. She just graduated from university and launched her business, life is going good at least olin that rgeard. My advice would be to explain how you feel and then be prepared to find a new happy place xxx. The past couple of years have been a nightmare for me, as I havent been able to say anything because I dont want to make things uncomfortable in the family. His mother is a 40 year old unknown woman, and as of now theyre broken up). 6) He preens like there's no tomorrow. So years went by and barely any conversations ever were initiated by my family of their opinions on what to do. Your ex sounds psycho, honestly. { But I truly think its wrong. NOPE! Unless, he was a criminal, wife/child abuser, you have no right to ask everyone else to just throw him down the toilet like a used toilet paper after knowing him for at least (probably more than) 13 years. A good man, a good father. They, however, see a good dad and boyfriend. I havent spoken to my mom in 4 years. So my mother knows not to trust that side, Come to find out a couple years later that my mother met with my ex and her daughter, but I was not told until 3 more years went by, and only by accidental discovery. Because it ISNT normal for a family to do this! I just found out that theyre all on a weekend vacation together. Thats really not very Christian at all is it? The one person who has been supportive to Me, and my dad shakes his hand. Maybe they have other reasons as well. You are failing to understand that some people dont even want contact with children or use them as weapons. It is sick. I guess I should laughthe two of them can have each other. I also told her we need to go back to court to fix the divorce decree which he seems to think he can just change last week he said he wasnt going to pay child support anymore and backed off when we told him how much he owed us for the health care and car insurance and car. He wanted out. Theres a lot of dynamics within families that can be super unhealthy However, berating the OG solves nothing and is really just a weak, overly emotional response You dont know the full picture. But wasnt believed and that was the most upsetting thing for me. If they cant get on board, its time for you to take that free time and find someone of your own and a new tribe of people who will value you. She is. My mom knows that he has dated 3-4 women after the divorce and cheated on them too and was arrested for soliciting a prostitute. Just what happens after a decade or so. They have children together . The Divorce Play List: Should I Stay or Should I Go Now, Adult Children of Parental Alienation Syndrome, 3 Things to Do if Your Parenting Plan is Not Being Followed, Why Some Women are Against Child Support & Support Enforcement. You are not alone! Its how my mom treats me and how Im the one excluded. OMG! If your ex is anything like mine she will know exactly what she is doing and its plain nasty of her. Wow Theresa! All of my family knew how abruptly he asked for adivorce. Tell them you love them but, they are not showing you respect or love by their actions and that it hurts. I can completely sympathise. I was made to feel unsupported and unwelcome. You don't have to cut an ex's family out entirely after a breakup. 6) He has an issue with her love life This is a huge indicator that he's not over his ex-wife yet. So, at least he was no longer too much in my family, I was kinda happy. Howeverother than holidays, your family has gone too far, especially with bbqs and now the girlfriend. Her ex is a deadbeat narcissist that hasnt paid a dime of support in years, yet her parents and one sibling and their spouse go out of their way to enable this guy to underperform on every level by continuing to help him out in various ways and spend time with him even paying for him and our kids to go on vacation with them when he has them. The pain all of this caused is immeasurable. I mixed nations they claim and am damed to hell I am most appreciative to my friends who did not choose a side, but instead treat both me and my ex with dignity. I agree with you, its hard to see the world as a good place when going through something like this. Selfishly, im the one handling 100% of the financial responsibility for their grandkids (and I wouldnt want it any other way) but they dont seem to mind him contributing zero and having a six figure arrearage that will never be paid. When he went on vacation to France, he referred to a woman named Peggy, he told me that he is no longer interested in our marriage. I didnt expect to, they are HIS family, not mine. Stop obsessing over it. It didnt. Shes not moving on, establishing new ties or a relationship with a new man and his family. I am sorry but its generally not normal to favour an in law over your own child/sibling. So if he hardly talks to his parents, and hardly even makes time to visit them, then you probably haven't met them because it really isn't a big deal to him! Your words above help.I need to resign that it will never get easier.but I too will never win a golf game with Tiger Woods and I will never win the manipulation game with my ex.so I dont play his game or anyone who wants to try to pretend that they are just trying to include everyone. hes still family . And its not giving you time to heal from the pain of divorce. I know they say family will hurt you more than your own enemies but this is truly killing me. At the end of the day divorce is only between her and her ex. Wishing you well. christmas, divorce, his ex, insecure. Ive been with my boyfriend little over a year and a half. Never told my husband, he found out from her tax preparer 2 weeks before the move. He and My sister in Law were trying to Get back at me Truthfully it sounds like they are trying to hurt you. He and his Ex have been best friends for nearly 15 years before and after their relationship. My family stuck by me, all ties cut! He has my family. Fast forward a year or so and I just found pictures of her with my ex and his new wife. I no longer try to understand why, there is absolutely no reason good enough. They talk to me about him like I want to know He didnt get that it wasnt okay to keep hanging out with my family. when did you skip the part of your life where your suppose to learn how to deal with and tolerate people you dont like or get along with? It is something that I can very much relate with! Can you really still love people that treat you so badly and is the everyday pain really preferable to the fear you feel of letting go? Of course, after the hangout, her X uses it to hurt my sister. "@type": "Question", For my family, even if my parents liked my bf's they'd always cut ties because it's just the thing you do. That you're his partner now, and you don't like being made to feel like a spare wheel. As for suggesting you to go to anger management shes gaslighting you making you feel as though you are the one with the problem. I told him to take me to her and lets all talk he said no. I went through this with my exhusband. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Who Is Naomi Osakas Boyfriend? What he doesnt say and what his family refuses to recognize is how much she and we do for the kids. I got ahold of her she tells me one thing and he sticks to the same little story that he was giving her closure because she wouldnt stop calling. She responded and told me that yes, he would be there. I divorced them all. If they don.t stop the madness and disrespect, join a group with common interests and get yourself a new family. He he is not doing anything wrong then whats the problem. You just should deal with this situation because now a days, generally people dont spoil their relationships because of anybody. My husband is divorced, and his family is very close to his ex. It kills me to this day that just because we got a divorce his family turned on me. This is beyond cordial. My problem is that his ex-live-in lover is still invited to all family functions, and he even invites her to his house for events like the 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and even Christmas. My ex lives 7 hours from him too. And being fully supported by my mother in law. Except when your ex is invited instead of you. Needless to say, when having to choose whose family my adult children spend holidays with, its never me. If he's not willing to change? Well, I thought it was heading in the right direction, but lately, hes been very depressed. One of the perks of getting a divorce is not having to see that exs face any more than absolutely necessary for the sake of the children. I thought by now the in-law relationships would be less, well, intrusive. How would my grandchild live a normal life if I cut ties with her dad. over you. Irony, my family finally tried coming back around too many years later with me. Its like they rather spend time with him than you. This happened to me for about 6 months, I havent had children yet, but my ex grown close to my family after five years of dating which is understandable. I guess thats the point; find a way to drive a knife in me. If you don't, and you see his or her ex enjoying it with him or her, beware.". Mary asks me to communicate with the Dr. IYAYA. Divorced parents often do it for their kids, and although you may find yourself in a different walk of life, the key to any kind of relationship succeeding is an open line of communication. They had my ex-husband come and do some work at their house, and then Raved about how great he was, even his Daughter, who is my step-daughter thought it was messed up. They do not want to meet you. I know where youre coming from. Even if you are right they are HER family!!!! The only thing Ive ever said was to my sister explaining that I dont feel comfortable coming to family functions if my ex is there. Perhaps, he is still friends with his ex. }] But as you may know,men are just like children when it comes to jealousy: it doesnt take much to make them jealous. I totally agree that this is nuts. We had no children. I guess sometimes things work out. and could be described as abusive themselves? We share custody of our kids and they come home and tell me how they have family movie night with my sister at his house every month or how they just saw my brother and my nephews. The reality is there is an ex though and I do have mixed feelings. But Im saying that you should allow your family to have somewhat of a bond with him. Do I really have to explain that to you???!!! This happened in my life as well. Heres an idea, dont get involved with a divorced man. My family, isnt making it clear either. Yeah, it sucks for a lot of us. I think you should have a talk with your whole family and be open to them that their relationship with your ex is hurting you. Ive remarried my best friend and I count my blessing each and everyday. My brother, in particular, invites him to everything and barely speaks to me now. I would never do that to them. THAT plus all the years of covert abuse makes them most definitely unworthy and unacceptable company. Sometimes I think its a way to stay close to your ex spouse. My two surviving children encouraged me to divorce their father. Its one my new partners Sisters that wont be in the same room as me. My brother called me to let me know this was going to happen. To me, its not even important. If you've gotten close with your ex's siblings or parents, you might wonder what the rules are around staying friends with an ex's family. 7th of 9 siblings. Then i am the bad guy. This is my take, and perhaps you are not going to appreciate it but, here it is. It is not ok! Since 1996 Divorce Magazine has been the Internet's leading website on divorce and separation. Also depending on divorce, which didnt sound all that pleasant to say the least. Ugh! It's a big ask, especially when he's not doing anything wrong. If your boyfriend and his family find it hard to discuss sensitive. They are master manipulators and will have laid the ground work for years; running you down and always presenting themselves as the victim. My sister made friends with him on Facebook and lots of other heartbreaking stuff. My invitation didnt have a +1. From my similar experience, it can give your children mixed signals too. They still love each other.. thats still her mom and she will always b our moms daughter.. oh did I forget to mention shes my sister I probably also for got to left me for our father.. Maybe its because you never explained why you feel so negative towards your ex, but you genuinely sound like a bad person. The only way I got through that horrible time was to hope that they would one day come to their senses and realize that blood is thicker than water That is stating look at me Im a victim. Yeah, hes still thinking about his ex. Holidays are weird. Im finally divorced, but lost my eldest son through death due to drugs. Just my opinion. I know that he badmouthed me when I asked for the divorce and never took any responsibility in his role, i.e. Maybe theres an in between for you like Ive found with my sister. The person they knew as their dad is not the person they know todayand they dont want any part of his world. Family should be the first group emotionally support in that. Am I just insecure? Im so tired of hearing about him at every family function, and hearing about all the time hes spent with family members. When I made the decision to divorce, I was prepared to give up a lot of things. Familys behaviour is presumed to be normal until you realise it really isnt and that although you may feel emotionally trapped you feel that way because you have been conditioned to feel that way and you do have a choice to break free and live life on your own terms. I am estranged from my family because of my ex wife. I think her family should politely put the ex at some kind of arms length . Wow! They are clueless. Stand your ground if he or she refuses to back away. I though it was good becuse children need a healthy relationship with both perents of possible. My ex only appears stable because he has money but he was a deadbeat, absent father and I am not in my 50s, alone and isolated. I cut all ties with my mom, my ex and the girl he is with (he is 61 and she is 29) but I still try and be civil to our daughter. I have a young son and daughter but I love my in-laws and see no need to sever my ties with them just because my wife ended our marriage. We divorced after 18 years, and my family shunned me for the next six years while embracing him because I filed for divorce and they dont believe in divorce. My mother in law never mentioned it, never said a word to my husband about it. Tom talks to Nina when he sees her and they get along very well, but I cant help feel jealous. You brought him round because he accompanied you. We live 7 hours from my nephew. Now youre seeking an ignorant beta male provider that you can continue to manipulate and feed off of peoples energy because you are an emotional vampire. Fact is until he dies and even beyond he will always be family via the blood connection of your children. Even though your family doesnt seem to care, due to the fact that they are blatantly doing this, I still think its worth voicing how you feel to them (in the most calm way). The selfishness and inability to look beyond yourselves baffles me. I have NEVER commented to any post, but I cannot imagine. Clearly your ex is better off without you and some other woman now sees the good in him that you took for granted and that causes you to be incredibly bitter and resentful. My two kids are 27 & 29 now. You could use this time wisely to explore your past, what went wrong in this relationship etc so you can begin to look ahead. It is a sad situation, because he was emotionally abusive and our marriage toxic, and I had to divorce. This is all for the benefit of the kids. You're in a tough spot. To take it one step further, my ex-wife was included in my fathers will as a beneficiary in equal part as my brother and me. What you are experiencing is called consequences of your actions. It took work to get to the point we are now. But It doesnt matter what anyone says, its always the actions that prove truth. He doesnt provide health insurance to the kids anymore because he let it lapse too many times so we do it through my job. I have told him that its painful for me to see her accepted as a member of the family and that he still has a close relationship with her. I suspect her issue is jealousy, since her mother intentionally got pregnant with her so my dad would stop running to my mothers aid every time I was sick, etcetera. My father said he wasnt choosing sides. The girlfriend should not even be in the picture.with your family, unless you were in agreement. I have a similar situation in that my ex still considers my family to be his family. Just wrong!!! I do realise you cannot change other people only yourself and sometimes the most mature, healing path you can take is to recognise that even family are not always positive, loving, supportive people to be around and to try and take all the hurt feelings and channel them into something productive. We went to counciling and eventually found out he had other affairs during our marriage and after trying to work it out for a year, he was still continuing to be unfaithful. I still love my husband so very much. My siblings declare they can do what they want and how I feel about it does not matter. No respect for her feelings . To be honest it sounds sort of weird that he is that close to them and sounds like hes got some issues. keep with staying away from or communicating with his family. At the beginning of the relationship, this caused a lot of hassle. So if hes not willing to introduce you yet, it really means that hes not ready to replace her yet. Some people are just that nice. I eventually had to distance myself from her because she was making what I believed to be terrible decisions, including being a sugar baby. So if on his time he schedules an event ( bowling) and invites her family and they go they are allowed but I suspect once the OP hears about from her kids it will still hurt. I mean Im sorry but if your the only one who find him unbearable then maybe you should do some self reflection. My ex is my daughters step dad. I know this is an old blog post but this is exactly how Im feeling and exactly what I am going through. They have already booked and paid for the flights so I guess we are committed. I would never again allow them to meet anyone Im involved with. His sister and his ex are spending more and more time together. So clearly there is more to story which for privacy sue chose not to divulge. Thank goodness for someone who gets it! Problem solved. We had to do that 3 years ago because it was so bad. You could talk to your family about how you feel when your ex is there or keep a distance." He tried to kill me and harmed our children. 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