When I contracted under the SMP I was administratively promoted to the rank and pay grade of E-5 ( I had served two years previously in the Army Reserve as a junior enlisted 11B). Get off your high horse. In fact, based on my experience there are some West Pointers out there who never learned that. I found myself going toe to toe with these junior NCOs and enlisted, but not to destroy their souls (as the NCO in me wanted to do so badly) but to talk to them and help them understand that if you treat these cadets like crap, it will be returned 10 fold in a year when they commission, hate NCOs, and are their raters. In other words, each the SNCO and the cadet would be functioning appropriately. They don't even have a MOS/Branch assignment or anything else at this point. Good answer. I wondered how he, as a senior NCO in a highly specialized unit, felt about having cadets around. The Army is always evolving but power bitches have always been around, we just don't frag them as we used to. Sorry, I wrote that on the go from a mobile device, and can't edit it. Be safe out there, use the "recon by fire" method if probing a road and drop to the ground when a frag is near you, the explosion goes up and away. Indeed, a cadet assigned as a visitor to a regular unit on active duty would not be under disciplinary sanctions by his training command and institution if s/he were under sanctions the cadet would be disqualified from visiting. Born in Heidelberg, West Germany, of African American and Hispanic parents in a U.S. military family, she graduated from Oxon Hill High School in Maryland, where she ranked among the top-10 students in her class. Somehow, the memo of shifting demographics of new Soldiers within the Infantry never reached West Point so there's a huge disconnect in reality. Interesting because WO1s are appointed by SecDef on behalf of the CinC. In this case he/she is regularly assigned, potentially in an E3, E4, E5, or what have you spot. I can't speak for the Air Force, but the Navy certainly does. I work with my leadership and learn from them and they help to shape me to become a good officer. Paras 2-9 and 2-10, AR 600-20 further reinforce Scott Faiths important points here. Thats what the reg says, but how does that work in practice? While in New York, she won second prize in the Alexander and Buono International Flute Competition. And cadets initiate salutes to any commissioned officer. America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Mr. Erik D. Mitchell assumed the position of Deputy to the Garrison Commander, USAG West Point (IMCOM Directorate. original name United States Military Academy at West Point insignia cadets sleeve rank and duty insignia. How would a cadet be regularly assigned? Thanks for your disgustingly pointless article. It can be a very valuable and rewarding experience if done right and an unfortunate waste of time for the CDT and unit if its not. Command Sergeant Major Michel R. Fraser was born in Wilmington, North Carolina and raised in Conway, South Carolina. 354th Civil Engineering Squadron, n USAF Civil Engineering Officer Grand Forks AFB, ND They receive paygrade of ~E-5 however they hold a higher position. AR 600-20 lists command structure. And I declined two Bronze Stars because some senior Officer decided to dispense them for every Officer and Senior NCO in theater! Yet I would not want a Year 1 WP cadet in charge of a company. From the senior officer perspective we were largely ignored. A rescinding announcement is required if the temporary assumption of command is for an indefinite period. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has deployed to Kosovo and Iraq. Cadets and NCOs do not salute one another. Very nice endorsements. FOOLISH it is for there to be any antagonism between NCOs and cadets, or NCOs and lieutenants. Upon completion of preflight we went to flight school. If cadets, during this valuable leadership experience, are not given the chance to act as lieutenants and acting platoon leaders, then the whole CLTC program should be scrapped. Now it was said in good humor. Battalion Command Sergeant Major, 1BN, 1st Regiment, USCC at United States Military Academy at West Point United States Military Academy at West Point View profile View profile badges It is a chain of command situation. United States Military Academy West Point Army Challenge Coin w/Sleeve! I believe my words only carried weight because I've already been in the Army for 10 years and the Senior cadre knew this (I didn't get in any trouble). Other notable assignments include working within the 2/320th Field Artillery Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, serving as the Artillery Command Sergeant Major, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Georgia, and serving as the Corps G-3 Fires Sergeant Major XVIII Airborne Corps Headquarters at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. It was priceless to see the look of surprise on my former XOs face when I walked into my old unit on a drill weekend. -If you are a cadet and you don't see the value of picking the brain of an NCO (CPL to SGM), then you will most likely be doing your time and moving on. When I was a 2LT, I always took the fact that Vietnam vets 4-10 years older than I was were saluting me as an obligation to do my best to earn that salute. Subscribe to our email newsletter to receive exclusive news, updates, and concert schedules for the band. The NCO referred me to AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, which makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. When an NCO saluted me, I didn't just wave my hand at my cover to dismiss the salute, but "locked up" a little myself, acknowledged him with eye contact, and responded to any greeting. Am forwarding this to my son. She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel . 319th Civil Engineering Squadron. Combined Security Transition Command Afghanistan (Ministry of Defense Advisor), n Engineering Director Kabul, Afghanistan Anyway. Cadets should know that they must earn respect. Strangely enough, the Services expect the exact same behavior as "officers and gentlemen" (and of course ladies) from cadets and midshipmen, as they are also subject to Article 133, even lacking a commission, and some are dismissed from the Service every year for violating Article 133. -If you are a Soldier and you are still carrying around the trash attitude of the "good ole' days", it is most likely time for you to go. Prior to joining the West Point Band, Staff Sergeant Rivers interned at Billboard Magazine and Knopf Publishing. No idea if it is being taught now at BNCOC or ANCOC. HUGE US Army Sergeants Major Academy USASMA Ft Bliss Military Challenge Coin 6" Sponsored . Interestingly, one weekend I had a pass and visited a college friend at a nearby naval base where he was undergoing Navy Aviation Cadet training. Comments will be moderated before posting to ensure logical, professional, and courteous application to article content. It goes both ways and without Officers the Army would surely still fall apart. But short of that, cadets can end up in just about anywhere. This would be wiser than placing a WP Year 1 cadet in charge of it. In 2012, he was awarded a Master of Public Administration from John Jay College in New York, New York, with a concentration in human resources management, and is a member of the Adjutant General Corps Regimental Association. Scott welcomes story ideas and feedback on his articles, and can be reached at, ts summertime, and for many cadets in the Armys ROTC programs and at West Point, that means . Joseph John Quichocho, 1SG E-8 RETIRED US ARMY. I am acting PL of my platoon because we dont have a 2LT. Has the. sgm guevara's awards and decorations include the bronze star, meritorious service medal (2nd award), the army commendation medal (3rd award), the army achievement medal (4th award), the master parachutist badge, the ranger tab, the pathfinder badge, the combat infantryman badge, the expert infantryman badge, the air assault badge, the el salvador They are everywhere and plugged into everything. Don't assume a damn thing, if a young NCO or Soldier tells you he "thinks" the vehicle is ready or has a full tank of fuel, hand him a long stick, send him back to the Motor Pool, have him put the stick into the fuel tank and bring back said stick with fuel on it, that way both of you will now KNOW that the vehicle is fueled. Per the order, they are not entitled to a salute. Before her arrival, she lived in New York City as a Kenan Fellow at the Lincoln Center Institute. Somewhat surprised by this, and thinking back to my own experiences in CTLT, I asked why he felt that way. United States Forces Iraq (USF-I), J-7, n Chief, Engineering Plans and Services Yuma, AZ Always seek the minority view of any situation or story! Ive been on both sides of the fence. A wise cadet will be mindful of their position. Then again for the same categories who were on rear detachment duties! It is not just West Point cadets who outrank NCO's. West Point outlines quarantine, isolation guidelines in playbook April 1, 2020. Production NCO(i overseen what the shift leaders do as far as getting production done (preparing the sustenance for the Airmens consumptioon in accordsnce with AF Standards i showed him the Regs and the Cook production logs the leaders (shiftleader, 1st Cook, Baker Supervisor, bskers) follow at various levels of preparinv the Sustenance.. I'm laughing as I remember when our sniper team took out 16 combatants at one road intersection in Falujah, Iraqi's have an average IQ of 70 so they aren't the brightest candle on the cake, lol. Staff Sergeant Megan Cardone joined the West Point Band in March of 2011. Great investment. I respect ALL Personnel of the US ARMED FORCES and Civilians appointed over me. The platoon sergeant major, and his cavalry counterpart, the troop sergeant major, were part of a project giving experienced non-commissioned officers command of units ( platoons and troops) formerly reserved for commissioned officers. I am a cadet and am military police and drill with them as well. This essay is an unofficial expression of opinion; the views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of West Point, the Department of the Army, U.S. Knights lifted their helmet to recognize they friends from enemy. Other courses attended include the U.S. Army Airborne School, Air Assault School, Combative Level 2, Master Resiliency Trainers Course, Battle Staff Course, First Sergeants Course, and the United States Army Force-Management Course. Command Sergeant Major Fraser previous positions and assignments include G1 Sergeant Major, 13th Expeditionary Sustainment Command, Fort Hood, Texas; First Sergeant, Bravo Company and Reception Transition Unit, Fort Benning, Georgia; Senior Human Resources Sergeant, 501st Sustainment Brigade, Camp Carroll, Korea; Senior Human Resources Sergeant, 1st ABCT, Fort Riley, Kansas; Battalion S1 NCOIC, 2-4 FAR, Fort Sill, Oklahoma; Senior Drill Sergeant, B 2-39 INF REGT, Fort Jackson, South Carolina; Brigade S3 Operations Sergeant and Customer Support Branch, 1st PERSCOM, Schwetzingen, Germany; Personnel Administrative Sergeant, 87th CSSB, Fort Stewart, Georgia; Assistant Brigade Personnel Sergeant, Personnel Administrative NCO and Training Room NCO, 1st Brigade, Fort Stewart, Georgia. Prior to joining the band, Master Sergeant Lane served as head audio engineer at Grammy Award-winning Sono Luminus, a record label in Northern Virginia specializing in classical and jazz music. Specifically, it allows them to try their hands at officership, and to get a feel for the kinds of officer/NCO relationships that are essential to the success of our Army. Staff Sergeant Cardone earned her Bachelor of Music, magna cum laude, in . When contracted you take the officer version of the oath as well. On Thursday, January 21, it was reported that the US Army launched an investigation after the unmasking of a supposedly semi-anonymous Twitter account the command sergeant major of West Point Military Academy allegedly used to criticize elected officials and former President Donald Trump. Why hasn't a single one of you been taught that humility, respect and honor flows both ways but in different fashions? I highly doubt any West Point graduate will magically "see the light" after reading my imput on this discussion. Pilot and navigator cadets went to different flight schools. The two year enlistment term allowed for cadets who had to temporarily halt training because of illness or injury. When a cadet has to leave the USAFA before graduation, he is assigned to a reserve unit with the rank of Airman 2C. Warrant Officers are formally addressed as "Mister." My NCOs treated me with respect while I was a midshipman, but taught me what it meant. They're inchoate officers. Something went wrong while submitting the form. Corps of Cadets has been announced and includes a strong group of varsity athletes. How dare enlisted swine preside over a command position? So yes, a West Point cadet DOES outrank a sergeant. The reason you would place cadets above enlisted in the rank chart is because they will be officers. Regarding saluting courtesy in the cadet corps. It would have sent enough juice thru the not yet graduate nor commissioned idiots heart to stop. As others have commented, folks should remember that those Cadets that you give a hard time to will in a short time become those officers that are in charge of writing your NCOERs never mind the fact that they also will be your leaders when deployed in a combat zone ( I served in the 1st Cav Div during Desert Shield and Storm), in other words garbage in equals garbage out. They dont commission until CW2 but I guess they dont really count as Officers either. CDT Vincent High marks! Elite only in their mind. The best way to train cadets to be officers that their soldiers will look up to and their NCOs will respect is to treat them the way you want them to act. The Modern War Institute does not screen articles to fit a particular editorial agenda, nor endorse or advocate material that is published. That sounds like a fun and challenging job. Medical students are not in this hierarchy at all except they answer to doctors and do only what a doctor tells them to, under that doctors supervision. Enough of my rant! Death, disability, retirement, reassignment, or absence of the commander. IQ averages are around 120 for most Grunts and for those that don't track demographics, that's a huge jump from national averages. the leadership essentially passed off their job.. but i ythink it is good these future officers learn from those entrusted to prepare the sustenance.. instead of those that havent actually been in thr kitchen for a couple years. Cadets are still learning and everyone in the unit should help mentor them and show the value of NCOs. Sergeant Major MaryKay Messenger is a native of Newburgh, New York, and a well-known soloist throughout the Hudson Valley region, performing classical, Broadway, jazz, and popular music. They've shown great patience, respected my process, and I am grateful for these SFCs, MSGs, and SGMs. I learned something that day. I learned something that day. As SNCOs think of this as an opportunity to shape the Os of the future. In reserve and guard units, SMP cadets do hold assigned positions, but have no position in the chain of command. Not only do NCO's get shit on by their LT's but sometimes the LT is getting shit on by his Company Commander. The key to success in your career is understanding the strengths and weaknesses of your key players AKA your subordinate leaders and junior Soldiers. Cadets are not commissioned nor do they possess a warrant. The U.S. Army, alerted that the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point reportedly violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) by tweeting criticism of former President Donald Trump and also targeted Republican Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan has commenced an investigation. Something I wish I knew 50 years ago. Sergeant First Class Anthony has also served as a percussionist with the 9th Army Band in Fairbanks, Alaska, and the U.S. Army Signal Corps Band in Augusta, Georgia. Every single SNCO I've come in contact with in ROTC has developed me as an Officer. Cadets saluted officers of all United States uniformed services. Within the cadet corps there was a rank structure and cadets saluted other cadets with rank above theirs. Command Sergeant Major Glidewell entered the United States Army in July 1981, and completed Basic Training at Fort Jackson, SC. Is the cadet attached or assigned a leadership position? "(3) Senior regularly assigned Army Soldier refers (in order of priority) to officers, WOs, cadets, NCOs, specialists, or privates present for duty unless they are ineligible under paragraphs 2-15 or 2-16." I asked if he gave the cadets in his unit a hard time as part of their CTLT experience. CSM Craven has also earned the German, Chilean, and Australian Parachutist badges and is a member of the Prestigious Sergeant Audie Murphy Club. But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCOs authority and influence. Allow them to lead you too! Cadet you are not a cadet when in you ng or reserve unit. And keep your mouth open and eyes covered with your hands when it or any other explosion goes off near you. (Contracted ROTC cadets are MS III and MS IV, overwhelmingly and predominantly.) Cadets were sons of the upper class and were, due to social norms, afforded gentlemans status. We are officers in training and when we get a chanve at a leadership role with the guidance of the NCOs it will ensure our success as officers. "b. My friend confirmed that Navy Aviation Cadets rated salutes by enlisted personnel, at least they did at that time. The West Point Music Research Center is dedicated to understanding and communicating the effects of music through multi-disciplinary research and analysis. Tired of all the "barracks lawyers" looking for some sort of designated, assigned, or "official" trappings of respect; absent the need to EARN that respect. Your submission has been received. Technically, they aren't even qualified to fulfill a team leader slot. Incorrect. Maj. Joel Crawford, USAG West Point Command Sergeant Major by West Point Garrison and Community 2012 - 2014: Col. Dane D. Rideout, USAG West Point Commander by West Point Garrison and Community 1 2012 - 2014 . No Salute should be required or rendered. He also volunteers with local community organizations such as Higher Ground Men's Group, Men of St. Joseph, and the Most Holy Trinity Catholic Choir. Cream only. The ones that get emotional about my post will reply as expected and miss the lesson altogether because they've been hard wired to respond that way. The Army has launched an investigation after the unmasking of a semi-anonymous Twitter account the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point, allegedly used to criticize elected officials and former President Donald Trump, an Army official confirmed to the Daily Caller. He also volunteers with local community organizations such as Higher Ground Men's Group, Men of St. Joseph, and the Most Holy Trinity Catholic Choir. So I think he had it right. (2) If the commander of a headquarters and headquarters element dies, becomes disabled, retires, is reassigned, or is temporarily absent, the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier of the particular headquarters and headquarters element who performs duties within the element will assume command. A lot of people have been killed in combat because of the arrogance of westpointers. They are legally considered E-5 equivalent, and aren't Branch qualified. I was a 13B20-Gunner. He previously served in the 282nd Army Band at Fort Jackson as head light designer and percussionist, performing in the Jazz Combo, Rock Band, and Concert Band. I'm popping into the conversation late, but I completely agree (not that you can argue with the regs). We only go to attention for officers. Master Sergeant Lane's professional affiliations include membership with the Audio Engineering Society and voting membership with The Recording Academy (Producers and Engineers Wing). During cadet training we were paid at the rate of an E5. They clearly outrank privates and are often assigned to leadership roles, but they aren't yet commissioned. It should be. I wore the Cadet rank insignia of 2LT. The smart ones find a good NCO to mentor them. Master Sergeant Carla Loy Song became a member of the West Point Band in 2007. She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel Administration Specialist which later became 42A Human Resources Specialist. And get to know your PBO very well! We promise not to send you more than one email a week! Normal members of the medical team fall within a strict hierarchy (just like rank). Mids rank between W-1 and W-2 last time I had occasion to check. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of The only regularly assigned cadets are in the national guard or reserves as a SMP Cadet. single time. ). I'm not a regular progression cadet so this is a better look at the situation. So yes, a West Point cadet DOES outrank a sergeant. . The reason "cadets" are even mention in a gentlemans role is due to long ago medieval social customs. NCO's look at big picture constantly, good officers are aware of this and cultivate this. Served in the regulars from 1983 to 1985, and from 1987 to 1989. In addition, CSM Whiteford served two tours at the U.S . OK, fine. Greetings from West Point and welcome to the Commandant's Corner. As a mom of a cadet thank you! I am an honorably discharged Veteran of the active Army. I agree with you Sir. If you're not an Infantry Officer then to us you're an NPC because you lack skills and experience. ok Cadet, go right ahead. I thought this is a very well written article. I wondered about it at the time and this reminded me of it, is this more of like a courtesy thing where Warrants dont salute each other and shake hands instead? *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal*, U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs, Scott Faithis a veteran of a half-dozen combat deployments and has served in several different Special Operations units over the course of his Army career. After graduating from high school, they both felt called to enlist, and became clerks. Officers, commissioned warrant officers, midshipmen, cadets, candidates are all affordedofficer status. CSM Robert T. Craven hails from Swords, Louisiana and enlisted in the U.S. Army in March 1995. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has a daughter, Talia. Army command policy is clear the definition of terms. Point is that one never knows what lies down the road so I try to treat everyone with respect regardless of their rank or position. Plus, it's not typically possible for a Cadet to be a " regularly assigned member" of any unit other than their school unit. The Army isnt some pay your dues ol boys club anymore. While in Iraq in 2003-04 we got a batch of 12 west pointer kids and more than half were momma's boys and short of a huge shift in their personality and ideals, they're too far gone in the head to be respectable leaders. Master Sergeant Loy Song has played in the Concert Band and Jazz Knights trumpet sections, was a founding member and lead singer of the Benny Havens Band, and is now a member of the Support Staff. the Armed Forces of the United States (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard), the commissioned corps Because according to the Army, they outrank me, sir.. The regulations can only go so far in some jobs and situations in our Army and beyond that you need to be resourceful or have friends who are. As that was a long time ago, my memories of the experience were that it was the best and the worst of both worlds. As the DGC, he manages Garrison staff operations in support of the United States Military Academy mission. I hope this sheds some light on things. A (knight) officer is a commissioned officer and formally addressed as "SIR!" I was an Air Force Aviation Cadet during the late 1950's. We had a young know it all LT around the COMS tent he starts looking around and I see him messing with the ground strap the future leader of our troops disconnected it. This regulation shows that cadets rank after commissioned and warrant officers, but before NCOs. 2014 - 2016: Command Sgt. She received a Bachelor of Music Education from Indiana University, where she studied both trumpet and voice. Shiver me timbers he pooped on the deck. It's often hard to find but its often the real truth on a subject especially if it's being spoon fed to you in briefs and media. Her accolades include a Grammy Award for "Best Engineered Album - Classical," engineering and mastering credits on multiple Grammy-nominated albums, an "Award of Excellence" from the Audio Engineering High Resolution Recording Competition, and a Downbeat Award for "Best Engineering for a Live Recording." At the time the pipeline for commissioned officers in the Air Force was ROTC, OCS, Aviation Cadets, and the new USAF Academy whose first class graduated circa 1958. This should not turn into a them vs us type of debate. West Point grads are elite and you know it, Ask any enlisted person and they will tell you that westpointers are arrogant and on need of a lot of training. Thus, I suspect a warrant officer's wife is addressed a "wifady" (wife/lady.) Cadet Physical Program requirements still remain a priority April 1, 2020. I have to admit that when he asked what I needed I probably got a little pleasure by responding: a cup of coffee. I've seen this relationship play out in the Army. Word of advice, if you want to write an op-Ed then you should submit it for publication. Staff Sergeant Chrissy Rivers joined the West Point Band in September of 2010. Different fashions fact, based on my experience there are some West Pointers out there who learned! 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