Clinton. How many times did Jesus speak to Paul? So when Paul wrote his two letters to the Church in Corinth, who was overseeing all aspects of the church? When did Paul study under Gamaliel? I know! So get to work! Helpful. The reason why the Essenes left and went into the desert was because they believed the Pharisee were to lax in their laws and punishment in the Sanhedrin. therefore I urge you to imitate me, and I have become all things to all men. Paul thinks hes Boss, and doesnt need to listen to your instructions that I gave him.. I do not think, however, that Paul was a Christian Pharisee. The game the dogs play is the same today, Except now they do it on blogs. What were Pauls sins as a Christian? In support of this alternative, it has long been noted that Galatians 1:16-24 appears to describe a . The translation of his relics is observed on August 2 . Even if Judas was physically present, as we all realize now, he was not a true follower of Jesus. Paul describes his own life in Philippians 3:5-6, where he lists seven things ascribed to him or achieved by him: He states that he was "circumcised on the eighth day.". That is OK, if it is not handy then I can look it up myself. ), In essence, it is also the same principle as what Eve did in the Garden of Eden, forgetting about the Tree of Life, which is the first tree in the middle of the Garden, and instead referring to the second tree as the tree that is in the middle of the garden. [Genesis 3:3 & 2:9 2:17, 3:24], Kind of like the Pharisees with Jesus, who were pushing the false idea that we can consider ONE commandment in the Law, alone in isolation, to be the greatest commandment in the Law., Or like today, false teachers in the Chrislam Purpose Driven Seeker Sensitive Emergent Liberal Ecumenical New Age world church movement pushing the false idea that the ONE RULE is Loving God and Neighbor together.. His primary Why never quesiton his testimony about himself that he never intentionally disobeyed God, is the sinless ever-virgin, and said; I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some? and as long as the food was not sacrificed to idols and was kosher you could eat with gentiles. Paul learned from Gamaliel in many ways that helped him in his ministry such as interpretation. Go and sin no more said Jesus, Dont relive that history. When Paul was arrested, he told the people and the authorities, "I am a Jew, born in Tarsus in Cilicia, but brought up in this city, educated at the feet of Gamaliel according to the strict manner of the law of our fathers, being zealous for God as all of you are this day" (Acts 22:3). In Acts 5:34 he appears as an advocate of the nascent congregation of Jesus' disciples in Jerusalem and is called "a Pharisee, a teacher of the Law, held in honor by all the people.". Social Science. Pauls speech and thought directly lines up with the teachings of Hillel.. . I am surprised that no one has brought the tradition that Gamaliel was sympathetic to Christianity, if not himself baptized. Exactly what Issa p al Masih did about 500 years earlier! As a result, Paul calls Peter a hypocrite for following Maase HaTorah or in English Works of the Law instead of what following what the Torah actually stated. Ridiculous. I will punt the description of the Shammites back to Wright, I have read extensively on the topic, but the characterization he gives in *What Saint Paul Really Thought* is a bit more than I think the evidence can bear. Maybe, from what I have seen of him he does not go to great lengths on anything. Paul was probably making reference to some of the Hebrew Scriptures, quite likely including the Law and the Prophets. Paul says that he was taught by Gamaliel. When Christ was first preached multitudes gladly received the word. I have regularly recommended you start your own blog and have these sorts of discussions there. The Apostle Paul encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus in one of the most radical of ways, which led to his conversion and stepping into his call to follow Christ and preach the Gospel. "Paul claims to have been educated by Gamaliel, one of the premier teachers of the Law in the first century. This is not true, you have no idea what you are talking about. According to tradition, Gamaliel and Nicodemus buried Saint Stephen outside of Jerusalem. Maybe there is someone I could bounce this off, to get some ideas. What is undisputed is that Gamaliel was "held in . And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred on one on me, so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. [Luke 22:28-30]. The Zealots were against the Political oppressors, the Sadducees were complacent and the Pharasees were die hard conservatives that had a history of killing over the strict preservation of the law (Polhill 27-28). The Book of Revelation written by the Apostle John, chapter 21 verse 14 says The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostle of the Lamb. Nothing about a 13th Apostle or an Apostle of the Gentiles. So approximately 1-2 years after the crucifixion and Resurrection. Here are 5 to get the discussion started: .1) Pauls boastful conflicting false testimonies, exaggerating and making things up about his conversion experience in Acts 22 & 26, compared to what actually happened (recorded by Luke in Acts 9). For years now America has been stuck in a seemingly endless, unwinnable guerilla war in an Asian nation that borders China. Begins with a consonant. Taken directly from Talmud. As much as I appreciate you keeping an almost 4 year old thread alive, you just do not contribute much to the conversation. Minhags- customs attached to moses and the oral law to make them valid that were infact against Torah and corrupt. Paul, before his conversion, tended to be more like the Shammaites in that he was fairly violent and full of persecution. Nowhere. He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal disease and sickness. Good question, although in Acts Gamaliel is more lenient than Paul with respect to the followers of Jesus. He was also a hellene or hellenized jew of the diaspora as part of the culture of the greeks so he was also schooled in Greek logic and would have been knowledgeable in the classics of Plato and Aristotle, Stoism and Epicureanism. I dont think hes involved in church much, but I could talk with that guy. / 2 Tim. and to make a point in this conversation,where did you get the idea that Saul (Paul) was Jewish.? Calling him a good man (Acts 11:24), a prophet and teacher (13:1), an apostle (14:14) and one through whom God worked miracles (15:12), Acts loads him with accolades. Here however it plainly is not. I wrote a short note on Pauls relationship with Gamaliel two years ago and it has been one of the more popular posts on Reading Acts. He was the son of Simeon ben Hillel and grandson of the great Jewish teacher Hillel the Elder. Paul has already been briefly mentioned in Acts in Chapters 7 and 8, in connection with the stoning of Stephen. God bless you all. Well see in your other articles. And I need to save a throne for my mom, or shell be mad. it seems like Gamaliels statement would be a good point to make in sharing the gospel message with people of the Jewish faith. ), Paul is a Hillel talmudim through and though. Paul had decided to preach to gentiles apparently out of his own revelatory experience that this was the mission that had been given him by God when God called him to function as a prophet for this new Jesus movement. Its all a part of Gods perfect timing and plan. While Gamaliel was seemingly somewhat relaxed in his view of the Torah, Paul seemed to take it so seriously, that he believed the Christians truly did deserve to be persecuted for believing in a false Messiah. For that, we have to go to extra-biblical sources. The man throws his huge sombrero hat on the floor, and the couple dances around it, but never steps on the hat. What were Pauls specific sins as a Christian? 1. But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men be put outside for a short time. These mostly have something to do with marriage and divorce. Hmmmm.. Paul states hes a Pharisee Acts 23:6 Paul States he kept Torah, the law through out his life Acts 25:7-8 and 28:17, Paul circumcises Timothy after the town rebukes Timothy for going into ministry uncircumcised (Acts 16:1-3) Paul attends synogogue faithfully (acts 17:1-2) Paul adhering to Passover (acts 18:21-22 and 1 Cor. The only think I have examined from him (Yeshua: A Guide to the Real Jesus and the Original Church) is occasionally accurate, but often wildly wrong. [22] The Roman Catholic church views him as a Saint and listed him in the Roman Martyrology for August 3. Good point. But it wasnt worth mentioning to anyone in the first century, except the alleged mention of Jesus brother of James who is called Christ, since Chrestos means good it probably is saying James who is called Righteous One and not mentioning Christ or indicating Messiah by saying Christ. Yes youre a cookie cutter christian typing up Constantine derivative nonese. These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon [Matthew 10:1]. Is the Word of God a revelation to man? (Acts 16:1-10). Is it possible that Paul did conceive of certain individual missions against Christians as consistent with a rendering of mercy, that is, mercy to the stability of cultural Judaism rather than mercy to minority Jews (i.e., Christians)? How about written in stone in heaven (in other words, for eternity.) 1. Only 3 of these men wrote Scripture in the Bible Matthew, John and Peter. The biblical Christian has but one authority and tradition, trust and SolaHoly Scripture! Are the lines differentiating Gamaliel/Hillel from Shammaite Pharisees sufficiently filled out by robust bodies of exhaustive casuistry? When did Paul study under Gamaliel? If we need a man or a group of men to interpret the Word for us, that would make it a revelation that needs to be revealed. This is a question of fact about the content of the text in the 66 Books of our Bible. Was he not in the Sanhedrin when Jesus came before them? You will be called Rocky. However I do travel to Dallas for Shavuot to visit one of Messianic Rabbis down there. So being an Apostle of Jesus involves being sent by Jesus, yes. He is also quick to associate with gentiles, so he does not have a deep-seated hate for Romans in general as well. In fact, it is in this capacity where he is first mentioned in Acts 5. Dont be put off by the ravings of Paul the Pharisee that so many Bible-believing Christians push so hard. When did Paul study under Gamaliel? Some of the trials were limited to the high priest and his inner circle, it is likely the entire 70 member Sanhedrin met to dal with Jesus. (Eastern Orthodox). Now Ive got 3 slots open. The NIV translation inserts the heading Matthias Chosen to Replace Judas for the passage Luke wrote in Acts 1:12-26]. Jesus as the Messiah was not so much a liberal view, as one of supposed profane or contemptuous speech, i.e. Sticking with Acts, Gamaliel counsels caution in Acts 5, Rabbi Saul seems to abandon caution by Acts 7. For example, Polhill says, The most interesting ruling preserved from Rabban Gamaliel was his insistence that a woman had the right to remarry upon the testimony of a single witness that her husband had died. Their differing viewpoints do not seem like enough cause, to me, to doubt that Saul studied with Gamaliel. The Bible says clearly that Paul in his words said he was a Paharisee and he that he sat under the teachings of Gamaliel. This message was not the Gospel. Here is how Jesus answered that question: #1 One of the teachers of the law asked him [Jesus], Of all the commandments, which is the most important?, The most important one, answered Jesus, is this: Hear, of Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Maase Hatorah -works of the law 2. He fathered Simeon ben Gamliel, who was named for Gamaliel's father, and a daughter, who married a priest named Simon ben Nathanael. No accusation against the brothers No comments dark and obscure, Writing to the Church in Corinth that is what some of you were.. Why elevate the words of Marypaulhammad to the highest place, and use them as the lens to view and judge everything else? First off reading the first paragraph, his human teachers and influences matter almost as much as guidance by the Holy Spirit did. If Christianity means people who follow Jesus as messiah and savior then there is Christianity, beginning with Jewish followers of Jesus and moving out to the Gentiles through the Pauline mission. Instead, it puts their focus on their one special man above all others his personality, words and teachings, character, life example, feelings, experience, intentions, mind, will, emotions, etc. Did paul study under gamaliel? ), STEP 1) Paul said; I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man. [1 Timothy 1:13] (Response- Those were Sauls sins, before Jesus called him. My question is, is it too outrageous to see Pauls tendency (pre-conversion and post-conversion) as one that is either starting up a new hybrid of Jewish thought or a member of one of the smaller groups already formed? Jesus reminds us from The Law at the beginning, the Creator made them male and female. [Matthew 19:4, Genesis 1:27], As to the question of whether the Bible is ALL truly Gods WORDS. Then again youre the one creating a construct that Paul was Shammai. Supposition and/or conjecture certainly can allow for a yes that he was probably there because a Pharisee would most likely have gone to Jerusalem for the Pasch, Passover. Even though Gamaliel was the one who stated in Acts 5:34-39 that if this Jesus movement were from God there would be no way to stop it, they should just let it run its course, Paul was still influenced heavily by the persecution mindset that the rest of the Sanhedrin had. My view is very similar to the traditional Orthodox view of the texts of Scripture for almost 2000 years. Sometimes, Paul was wrong. Gamaliel. Wrong. Dear Philip, Below are quotes and links from two other blog gentlemen (Christopher, and UnashamedofJesus) who disagree with each other. There is no god but God Shahada part 1 in Islam. But after Paul went solo without Barnabas [Acts 15] I see no record that Paul ever appointed any elders in any church anywhere. If we didnt also have the clear records in Mark and Luke, it would be a fairly logical assumption that Jesus sent them out right away, but it would still be just an assumption. While it is true that Paul did persecute early Christians, it was for his love of the Torah and not because he was rebelling against Roman oppression. For example, But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified (1 Corinthians 9:27 ESV). In athletics and my walk with Christ, I must remain disciplined in all that I do. Sages of the time didn't have formal recognition or title. You seem to parrot some of his words in your replies. There is absolutely no Christianity in the book of Acts.. The moment Paul stopped persecuting the disciples of Jesus Christ, he stopped fighting against God. Neither Paul, nor James, nor Luke were with Jesus and the Apostles the whole time, so they were not qualified to be a witness with the Apostles of Jesus resurrection, which is what it means to be an Apostle. Jesus never said anything like that, and Jesus did not see it that way. It is the drastic nature of the difference in his life after he surrenders to Jesus that testifies to the Power and Truth of who Christ is, as well as to the wonder of the great mystery that is later revealed to Paul! Im horrified that youre taking Jewish writings and making crazy stories out of them.. His voice is so much greater Than paul the Pharisee. (Acts 18:18) Reference to Torah (num 6:2-6, 13-18) Paul leave Philippi after Observing Unleavened bread (1 Cor. Last Update: October 15, 2022. Paul was accustomed to learning from his elders as he developed as a Pharisee (Galatians 1:14). Love. https://wonderfulgraceofjesus.wordpress.com/2017/03/08/the-commandments-of-jesus/#comment-120. There will always necessarily be a need for supposition and inference. Sign up. Acts recounts the times he faced persecution (13:45; 14:19) and risked his . Beware of the NAR whale its really a killer whale with a man-made horn strapped on top. To know the truth is a blessing from Allah, if I had to guess you just have not been taught what Islam teaches, and we honor all Prophets (pbut) revere the 12 Apostles and have never acknowledged that Paul was one of Jesus (p) Apostles, but have always known he was responsible for the corruption of the Truth about God and the Messiah (p). did I miss something? Matthew built on Marks work, using it as a backbone, and filling out more background details, and references to The Law, The Prophets, and Psalms, etc. By claiming to have been under the teaching of this particular rabbi, Paul is claiming to have been educated in a most impressive way. He sent Shaul to the gentiles to teach his message and he is a Pharisee. That means open your Bible and be specific. Polhill does say So perhaps around the age of fourteen to sixteen Pawl went to Jerusalem to study under Gamaliel (Polhill 30). So even if he did go off at the age of 15 then that is still 15 years of being influenced by his father. When morning came, he called his disciples to him and chose twelve of them, whom he also designated apostles: Simon.. [Luke 6:12-14], Again three chapters later, When Jesus had called the Twelve together, he gave them power and authority to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. [Luke 9:1-2], .3) Gospel of Matthew which is organized by theme, not necessarily in chronological order. He studied under Gamaliel. Those educational credentials allowed Paul to preach in the synagogues wherever he traveled (see Acts 17:2 ). Paint the house first, and Ill stay in the garage until youre done. 1973 Inside the mind of a Jesus Person. Ill do it then. While Paul was studying under Gamaliel he was exposed to Hellenism, including the gymnasium. Mantra: Heil Hitler., .2) The self-appointed Prophet Muhammad, author of The Koran. [Acts 18}, .5) Paul acting as an abusive absentee overseer / pastor to the Church in Corinth years after he abandoned them, and clinging to all power and claim to control of money and all aspects of the church ministry, while he was hundreds of miles away teaching full-time in his own school in Ephesus. As is his conventional style, NT Wright is overly presuppositionsal in so much of his theology generally that I cannot personally ascribe to him much status as a scholarly commentator . So the biggest problem with the church in Corinth was Paul himself, and his abusive absentee leadership style. Somebody did the calculations of Paul's education, and said he basically had the equivalent of two Ph.D.'s by the time he was 21 years of age. The underlying unspoken assumption is that The Bible (66 Books) was given to us by God as one book and its all equal in level of authority, priority, and importance. Needless to say, many still revere Philomena and Christopher as saints. STEP 6) LOOP- REPEAT steps 1 through 5, until your dance partner gives up, the audience gets bored, or the music stops. Therefore, in times when there is no clarity, we should end there and not come up with our own assumptions. Paul (previously called Saul of Tarsus; c. 5 - c. 64/65 AD), commonly known as Paul the Apostle and Saint Paul, was a Christian apostle who spread the teachings of Jesus in the first-century world. Since November 2021, Reading Acts is edited by Sarah Westphal. [Acts 20:31 vs Acts 19:8-10], .4) Paul abandoning the Church in Corinth after a year and a half for no obvious reason, and going off on another long trip, mostly on his own, without appointing anyone else in Corinth as overseer, or giving anyone else any specific authority in the Church in Corinth. To teach the bible, it is mandatory to teach from a Pharisaic background. Which is why he had to go to Sinai (which is in current day Saudi Arabia). But Pauls teachings drive one up the wall. Anyway, Ill talk with Clinton and see if he has an idea for a short catchy slogan- maybe boiled down to four words or so. This gets Paul in trouble and that section of Acts is basically a dissertation by Paul stating he never taught against the law but adheres to it. Reliability is certainly an issue. This isnt the fullest description of him, but its full enough. Galatians: Freedom through Gods Grace (Wipf & Stock, 2019). is his own writings Acts 22 22-29. now there is the whole case of Paul a true liar. Polhill observes that several rulings of Gamaliel appear in the Mishnah, mostly having to do with marriage and divorce. This also convinces me that even though it seems he split from Gamaliel, early on, that did not change him into something completely opposite. Paul being the prodigal student, as it were, and departing from his mentor to do whatever he wants, abandoning his teachings, and then returning later when he realizes how foolish he was. Several people objected that it does not really matter who Pauls human teachers were, after his conversion experience he was taught by the Holy Spirit. What is the meaning of Tentmaker? Thats the short version of my definition of what is an Apostle.. For example, Gi. I meant to say for rejecting Mohammed (p) and worshipping a man who said worship God alone, Jesus (p), and adding a third God to the 1 and His son making a pagan Trinity, Christianity is anathema to its worshipped human founder (in name only and in Greek at that) who said OUR God is ONE worship HIM!. No, im based in Missouri. In fact Paul was called Shaliach and Yeshua was called Rabbi. This was where the institution derived its name, gymnos being the Greek word for naked. For Jews, nakedness was religiously offensive (11). By Paul being Jewish and involved in the gymnasium, he was going against the norm. In practical terms, regarding texts of the Bible, that means that the most important words are the words of Jesus recorded by The Apostles Matthew and John (closely followed by Mark) in my view. Jesus spoke the words recorded in Matthew 28:18-20, including make disciples of all nations. Jesus never used the term Great Commission, its simply a tradition of men. I find it interesting to look at this perspective that you pointed out, PLong: He was an ultra-conservative reacting to what he perceived as a dangerous liberal view. Everyone seems to give Saul a bad rap (and rightly so) for his actions towards believers before his conversion, however, this at least gives us a context to understand him better. I did not see this question before, sorry. You cite NT Wright as describing the Shammaite Pharisee as a militant hard-liner that was not willing to work with Rome as long as they could study the Torah. I do not, however, see this as the case in the rest of the book of Acts, where Paul works the Roman system in his favor. I think Sam is right (somewhere up the thread), one can differ from his teacher, sometimes radically. The Pharisee Gamaliel is mentioned twice in the New Testament (Acts 5:34; 22:3). Paul is a Hillel talmudim through and though. Something I would like to believe, though! 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